Merz Antique Firearms ~ Catalog of Old Guns and Related Items
The Model 1885 was Winchester's first single shot rifle. It was available in two frame sizes, commonly called "Low Wall" and "High Wall." The small Low Wall frame was primarily used for smaller caliber ammunition, and the larger High Wall frame was primarily for larger calibers. The Model 1885 was considered the hot rod rifle of its day. Every serious shooter had a different secret formula that he thought would give him an edge over the competition, resulting in hundreds of variations for the collector today. It was available in 5 different weights of barrel, marked 1 thru 5 on the underside of the barrel, just forward of the forearm. One popular variation of the Winchester '85 is a 22 caliber musket, which was a military training rifle, known as the Winder Musket.
W1057 BEAUTIFUL SPECIAL ORDER 1885 LO-WALL
Item # W1057
Beautiful case colors on this gun with most color remaining, some still bright and vivid. The bbl has smooth metal, bright shiny blue, a couple of wear marks but otherwise near perfect. Buttstock is exceptional in both condition and fit. Forearm is also near excellent. 28" oct No. 1 bbl. Winchester scope blocks attached. Flip globe front and replacement standard style rear sight. Special order features include a set trigger and a Swiss butt. Very unusual! Cal 25-20 SS. Excellent bore. A good looking rifle!!
Antique $ 4,950.
W5370 ONE OF A KIND WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL MUSKET IN CALIBER .32-40
Item # W5370
The only known. Original 30" musket style barrel, full length musket forearm, cleaning rod, sporting buckhorn rear & blade front sights. Original wood excellent+, sling swivels; all original finish, vivid case colors on BP. Overall excellent+ retaining virtually all original blue & vivid c.c. on hammer & lever. Guaranteed all original; Factory Letter detailing the fact that it's a musket, the caliber, barrel length, sporting rear, Lyman rear & tang sights. Tang sight missing. Excellent+ in & out. A great gun.
Antique $ 9,500.
7217 WINCHESTER LOW WALL RIFLE IN .25 WCF
Item # 7217
VG+ bore, full octagon #2 barrel, correct sights including a folding tang, original wood is in VG condition. Overall gun is very near excellent retaining 90% original blue which is thinning on the barrel, vivid case colors on the receiver. Sharp little gun.
Antique $ 3,950.
WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 LOW WALL RIFLE IN CALIBER .25 RF
Item # W802-22-155
26 full octagon barrel, VG shootable bore with a very light ring near the middle, scattered bad storage pitting on the front half of the barrel; otherwise metal is smooth and clean retaining 70% blue, the balance turning. VG wood, rifle butt, replacement sights.
Antique $ 1,075 .
WINCHESTER HIGH WALL CALIBER 22LR MUSKET
Item # 4230
Excellent bore. Original sights include the adjustable swivel rear bbl sight. Original musket style wood is in VG condition with just a few mars and dings. Sound and solid with no splits or cracks. Original varnish still intact. Original sling swivels still attached. VG throughout with about 90% blue starting to tone on bbl. Receiver having a high nickel content has flaked and is mostly a plum/brown. Sharp markings. Crisp tight action. Excellent inside and out.
Modern $ 1,975.
WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL RIFLE
Item # W41-21-92
.38 EX Caliber. 30" full round #3 bbl, very near fine bright shiny bore with very few light pits, sharp rifling, 98% lustrous bbl blue, considerable case colors visible on receiver and lever-balance is fading and dimming. Sights include combo front, platinum lined 3-leaf rear and Lyman tang; rifle BP, with excellent wood.
Antique $ 5,750.
WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL
Item # W458 -22-156
Scarce 50 express cal. Original No. 3 full round 30" bbl. Express Lyman marked front sight as well as 3-leaf express rear bbl sight. Original wood in generally good condition with a considerable amount of varnish remaining and a rifle style buttplate. Receiver has turned a mostly plum/brown patina with 50% bbl blue starting to turn. Nice all original gun. Correct but not in the range for a Letter.
Antique $ 8,500.
VERY FINE WINCHESTER DELUXE HIGH WALL SCHUTZEN RIFLE
Item # W165-22-155
Scarce cal 22 LR. Original 28 half oct # 3 bbl. Shutzen double set trigger. Checkered stock in the Schutzen pattern. Was originally configured with no rear sight seat as well as no front sight. Someone has added a dovetail in front and put an adjustable front sight that looks definitely factory on it. Also has a folding tang sight, fitted with Winchester style scope blocks and a Stevens scope. Apparently it came from the factory with scope blocks because there were no other sights noted. Extremely fine condition with most all original varnish on the extra fancy Dlx grade checkered wood. A minimal amount of minor mars. With full helm style buttplate. Bbl retains about 99% bright blue with an excellent bore. Receiver has virtually all blue on one side and flaked and turned brown on the upper 1/4" of the frame and maybe 1/2" out on the top of the receiver. Complete with vivid case colors on hammer and lever. The Letter also mentions a spur finger lever and Shutzen double set trigger. FINE little gun!
Modern $ 9,850.
RARE POPE BARRELED WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL SCHUETZEN RIFLE IN .38-55
Item # 6470-22-157
30 part octagon #4 barrel, excellent left hand twist Pope rifling, Stevens-Pope marked barrel (original caliber on bottom flat along with # '1900'; 'H M Pope' also marked on left barrel flat), barrel fit with Unertl type scope blocks and Lyman Junior target spot scope. 95% lustrous blue overall, Winchester helm style pistol grip checkered deluxe buttstock with cheekpiece and nickeled helm buttplate, checkered deluxe forearm with tuning fork palm rest. Fine walnut retains most all lacquer, double set triggers with custom finger grip scroll lever, Spirit level Windage globe front and vernier tang sights. Great looking gun.
Antique $ 16,500.
W42a WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 DELUXE SCHUETZEN RIFLE
Item # W42a-22-152
Caliber .22 Short. Original 28" #3 full octagon bbl, with vernier folding tang sight, excellent bore. Original 3X grade pistol grip checkered Schuetzen style stock is in excellent condition with most orig lacquer intact, helm buttplate and Dutch pattern cheekpiece. Overall gun is exc with 98% orig bbl blue, 75-80% bright vivid case colors. The Schuetzen rifles with a case colored frame are really quite unusual, they're generally later guns than that; complete with Factory Letter of Authenticity which states, 'no rear sight seat' but this has got a sight dovetail for a rear sight-probably an oversight or somebody put it in at a later time. If that's the case, they did a perfect job. Formerly in the Eldon Owens collection.
Antique $ 12,500.
6472 UNUSUAL WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL RIFLE IN .32-40
Item # 6472-21-114
32 #4 full octagon barrel, fine bore, 34" long scope mounted on barrel, 7/8" tube diameter with brass lens caps marked '123'; '123' is marked on underside of bbl as well, target mounts, 98%+ blue on barrel and receiver, considerable case colors on lever, close coupled double set triggers, three finger wood grip adapter on lever. Fine walnut with virtually all varnish intact, non-checkered pistol gripped buttstock with small Swiss buttplate retains most original nickel. Complete with Winchester palm rest. Scope retains 50% blue. Fitted with a 1" diameter unmarked target scope; good optics but missing one of the cross hairs.
Antique $ 6,250.
W24 WINCHESTER HIGH WALL RIFLE IN 44-40
Item # W24-22-159
Original 30 round #3 barrel. Nice bore with light pitting and strong rifling. 50% barrel blue, turning a plum blue color, and 70% receiver blue. Dockendorff crosshair front sight, Buckhorn rear sight. Rifle-style buttplate, near-excellent wood with pleasing grain, possibly has been freshened lightly. 111XXX serial number. Crisp action.
Modern $ 3,975.
1885 LOW WALL WINCHESTER RIFLE IN 25 CALIBER STEVENS
Item # W39-21-99
24" full octagon #1 bbl with an exc bore, originally was 22L. Interesting marking on bbl says "Rebored and Rifled by J. Stevens A&T Co." Barrel was factory reblued at that time and retains 95% heavy blue. Orig wood has a few light handling mars but is in generally near excellent with most orig varnish. Rifle style buttplate retains a considerable amount of case colors. Nice, clean, unique little gun complete with Lyman blade front and a very scarce series 62 folding Lyman tang sights.
Antique $ 2,975.
WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL IN CALIBER 32-20
Item # 8673-21-121
Special order 34 full oct #3 bbl, VG+ shootable bore, correct sights include Beaches folding front, Lyman folding tang and Lyman 2-leaf flip up bbl sights. Orig wood is in very fine cond with nickel plated Swiss buttplate. Overall metal is very nice as well with 95% toning rec blue and 75-80% bbl blue starting to plum out a bit. Still a nice, clean, all orig little gun with the exception of somebody having put a dovetail on the bottom side of the bbl 3" from the muzzle for a shooting weight-very professional job and does not negatively affect the value of the gun.
Modern $ 4,750.
VERY UNIQUE SMOOTH BORE WINCHESTER HIGH WALL, 2-BARREL SET
Item # 8551-22-147
Featuring a 26 20 Gauge shotgun bbl and a 30" .38-55 Smooth Bore bbl. This set is photographed in John Campbell's second Winchester Single Shot book and is the only set that I know of that is comprised of two different shot cartridge bbls. Overall gun is in exc cond with the 38-55 bbl retaining 98% bright shiny orig blue and an exc bore. The 20 Gauge bbl has a few very minor frecklings from bad storage but still retains almost all the blue with an exc bore. Matching wood on the two forearms and buttstock are in exc cond with a very few light handling mars; complete with correct shotgun style buttplate. Receiver finish is probably about 75% with some flaking and toning on one side but still crisp and sharp with no signs of pits. Guaranteed all orig. 113,XXX serial number range-too high to get a Letter but on close examination by taking it apart, the inside work numbers match on both barrels.
Antique $ 16,500.
INTERESTING 1885 LOW WALL WINCHESTER FACTORY TEST RIFLE
Item # 5166-21-108
Used as an ammunition testing rifle at the factory. 22 SHORT caliber, 23-1/2 round #1 barrel is hand-stamped "3-19-38." Of course bore has seen a lot of use, but it is still bright. No provisions for a forearm, has marks on stock and metal consistent with being clamped down to a bench. 90% blue on left side of frame, right side is 75% blue with wear marks, barrel has 80% blue with localized wear patterns. Rifle buttplate. Would make an interesting display piece for the low wall or ammo collector. Factory letter states it was shipped in 1901, then repaired and returned in 1908, 1909 and 1910.
Modern $ 1,950.
CRISP WINCHESTER 25-35 W.C.F. HIGH WALL RIFLE
Item # 3808-22-158
28 round number 3 barrel with no provisions for front sight. Rear sight dovetail has scope mount, plus two more scope mounts. Quality restoration job throughout. 99% blue. Nice caramel-colored brass Swiss buttplate. Good case colors on spur lever and block. Front sling mount, but no swivel. Original wood beautifully redone, but is a little shy on the right side where the stock joins the receiver. That's the only problem I can find. Overall this is one great looking gun.
Modern $ 3,750.
WINCHESTER BRITISH PROOFED LOW-WALL RIFLE IN 22 LONG RIFLE CALIBER
Item # 8274-21-105
Approximately 90% bbl blue, some thinning at the muzzle end, nice shiny receiver blue with about 90% remaining as well, good fitting wood, Swiss buttplate, forearm has two very small holes where somebody probably had a palm rest. Sights include Globe front, standard rear and tang, bore is in good cond although there is some roughness. This evidently was somebody's Sunday afternoon target gun. Well cared for, nice gun.
Modern $ 3,100.
WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL CHAMBERED FOR THE RARELY ENCOUNTERED 40-70 BALLARD
Item # 3618-22-160
Original 30 full octagon #3 barrell, original sights, VG shootable bore-just a few light scattered pits. Original wood is sound with no split or cracks and retains a fair amount of varnish. Overall metal has turned basically a plum brown patina coloration with traces of blue, the balance turned an untouched brown patina. All original, very early serial number range. Scarce Caliber-just over 300 40-70 Ballards were ever manufactured.
Antique $ 3,250.
FACTORY ENGRAVED SCHUETZEN TAKE DOWN HIGH WALL RIFLE IN CALIBER 22 SHORT
Item # 6922-21-120
2-barrel set. Fitted in it's original leg of mutton case. Engraved with a bear on one side and a big horn sheep on the other. Features gold lines on the buttplate, back of the receiver, bottom of receiver, lever, take down extension on both bbls as well as on the bbls themselves. Fitted with an A-5 scope and a palm rest made for a left hand shooter. Overall condition is spectacular with 98%+ vivid bright blue, case hardened parts retain vivid case colors. Absolutely unbelievable set. This set is referred to numerous times in Campbell's Winchester Single Shot book. One of a kind.
Antique $ 125,000.
FACTORY ENGRAVED POPE BARRELED SCHUETZEN RIFLE IN 32-40
Item # 6921-21-119
With carved stocks and gold gilted frame; This gun is pictured on the cover of the Winchester Single Shot book by John Campbell and is talked about quite extensively in the text. Campbell refers to it as the finest Single Shot ever made. Engraved quite profusely on the upper bridge, top tang, lever, hammer, block, buttplate and bbl. Tang sight, two gold gilted levers, fitted with a Malcolm scope and accompanied with a complete shooting kit with all the accessories. 30 #5 full oct bbl, Caliber 32-40. Gun is in absolutely unbelievable condition with vivid bright gold gilt on the frame, all bbl blue
Antique $ 125,000.
DELUXE WINCHESTER MODEL 1885 HIGH WALL RIFLE IN .30 U.S.
Item # 6685-22-153
30 full round #3 barrel, excellent bore, original sights include a Rocky Mountain front, buckhorn rear and a vernier tang peep. Fine+ overall conition with smooth clean metal, sharp corners, 90%+ shiny barrel blue, the balance just starting to turn, most original case colors are present on the frame, just darkening a bit with considerable protective lacquer. Excellent checkered pistol grip stock and forearm, considerable high gloss lacquer remains; complete with Swiss buttplate and most original silver finish remaining.
Antique $ 15,000.
6600 WINCHESTER 1885 DELUXE ENGRAVED SCHUETZEN RIFLE IN .25-20 SS
Item # 6600-21-115
One of the fanciest High Wall's I've ever seen. Fully matted 1/2 octagon barrel, engraved with a Big Horn Sheep on one side and a deer on the other in Factory pattern 6. Stocks are carved in style D; complete with cheek piece and helm butt, double set Schuetzen triggers, folding tang, vernier peep and Windage front sights; scope blocks fitted with a Winchester A-5 scope. Factory Letter specifies that the hammer is engraved; this is the only gun I've ever seen where the hammer spur is removed and the back of the hammer is rounded and engraved. Platinum barrel bands at the front and the rear of the barrel. All the features on this gun are verified with the Factory Letter. Overall superb with 98%+ bright shiny original blue, excellent case colors on hammer and lever; original wood is excellent+; all original oil finish. Truly a fantastic gun; hard to improve upon. Complete with J. Ulrich signature on lower tang.
Antique $ 85,000.
1885 HIGH WALL FACTORY TEST GUN
Item # 5530-21-97
This gun has had the barrel set back several times-you can see the slots underneath where the forearm should be; currently it's a .32 RF Cartridge; I'm not sure what it was originally; 24 barrel. Fairly good bore, no provisions for a forearm, original buttstock is generally VG showing the usual mars and dings, a slight crack at the upper tang; rifle style buttplate. Receiver retains 75% dulling blue, barrel is mostly a plummish brown coloration. Factory Letter shows that the gun was shipped back and forth within the factory a half dozen times for modifications. Interesting and unusual.
Antique $ 1,475.